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re: The Internet does have chat-rooms... (L-burg)

I know what you mean. I used to like to rant in here almost every day until someone here started giving me a nick name and asking where I was every night if I didn't post something- AWKWARD!

The Internet does have chat-rooms... ((or just get a room!))

for people who are lonely...some people might want to look into that...then the Rants and Raves forum can go back to being a place for people who just want to rant and/or rave!

enough said...

don't you think....

Lynchburg Regional Airport

If anyone here witnessed anything odd in regard to Lynchburg Regional Airport's arrivals or departures yesterday (Tuesday, March 16), please email me with details. Thanks.

Remembering Barns Brockman (Amherst Motors)

Can anybody tell me what Barns Brockman died of? Also when did he pass?

Is his son "Barns Jr" still around?

RNR place-holder (do not read)

Just wanted to post something that is not posted by thin or rooster. I will check back at the end of the day to see if anyone besides them has posted anything.

Re:Re: Why has every post been removed? (the boyz?)

I understand they have taken a liking to the thin skin guy. He posted and asked them to wipe out lunchburg,i checked ten min later and POOF! I hear he wants to put them up a tower and whatever else they need built.

Re: Why has every post been removed? (The idiocracy we call home)

Hmmm let's try to figure that out. It could be because the post was...

1. Stupid
2.About Chad or somehow Chad related
3.From that moron Rooster
4. Contained so many misspellings and grammatical errors it pained the eyes
5. All of the above

My guess is #5

Cheers!

Why has every post from March 1st-13th been removed?

Just wondering why there is a huge gap in the postings. btw.... free guppies fantastic!

Funny free posting (Campbell Co.)

I love to see the sense of humor in some of the people that post on CL. I was looking in the free section and ran across some free guppies. I love this persons sense of humor, myfavorite part is the threat of using "the force" LOL Enjoy!

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RE: Appreciated Possible Senario

I have had intruders before also. And I have never cared what the law says. Im sorry my property? Or im payin to live there? If you intrude you deal with MY concequences (I probably spelled that wrong anyhow..) I have a hockey stick and a gun. And depending on how close each one is..will be the weapon of choice. Let a cop tell me I can go to jail for defending myself let em.. I swear if there is a time that comes I will attack him and if he attacks me back im gunna sue.. im juss waitin for that day if it comes lol.. Hopefully it wont but im just saying. Sometimes some laws are ment to be broken. Eye for an eye. A robber is breaking the law by entering then I will break the law by breaking his face. :D A girls gotta do whatta girls gotta do.

Re: Safelite (Campbell Co)

Have you looked at your paperwork to see if there is a warranty? I have never had a problem with safelite. I think that they garauntee their work. I would call them either way, just to make sure. Good luck.

re: Jetbroadband owes you money (rant & raves)

Okay so you think Jetbroadband owes you money? Well no they dont and here is why....
The state right away fee was approved and put into place by the Government of the Commonwealth of VA. This Fee was being charged to all cable TV companies, or phone companies or other utilites that 1) attached there lines to the AEP power poles, or 2) Put there lines in the utility easement that was purchased from the state right away easement (AKA road easement), by AEP. This fee was being charged by AEP, then in turn the customers were charged by the cable companies and phone companies. So if you really want your money back go after AEP. The courts have ruled that the right away fee isnt allowed so AEP stopped charging the other utility companies, so in turn the customers of those utility companies werent charged any more. Hope this clears up why and how you were charged. O one more thing does your bill really say $.89 (89 cents) Per day? cause mine was a 89cent monthly fee.

Re: Note from Washington

How about this Inspiring Quote from the Current Occupant.
"My Friends, We live in the greatest nation in the history of the World. I Hope you'll join with me as we try to change it"

LORRI'S PIZZA!!!!!!

AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's in Forest in the shopping center at the light where Jefferson Forest High is.
The service is good, the pizza is good and the stramboli is incredable!!!!!!!!1
The price's are good too!!
It's worth the drive

Vito's pizza (Lovingston)

Vito's has the best pizza in lynchburg and surrounding counties. I ordered the meatball pizza for the first time the other day and it was awesome. I eat pizza all the time and this place is outstanding. I drive 40 minutes to pick up. If you have avy other pizza place suggestions post them.

Repost on CCUSA (Campbell Co.)

My husband and I recently relocated from a house we were renting due to the house being foreclosed on. Unfortunately due to all the bad weather it has taken us since the first of Jan to move. We are very good tenants and decided I would still have the carpets cleaned so the bank wouldn't think we were total slobs, I just don't want anything bad to be able to be said about our family. Anyway, the carpet cleaning company I use asked if there would be water available if they need to refill (oops I requested the water to be shut off as of this [ast Monday). I call CCUSA and asked (Tues morning) if they had cut the water already and they had, however the man on the phone said the guys were still in the area and wouldn't gladly go turn it back on. I just thought that was very nice, I was expecting some fees to be thrown at me, but they were very nice about it all. I apologized for any and all inconviniences because I felt like a heel. Great experience though, none of the other utilities I have ever dealt with would do that. Now that is excellent customer service.

whats with the gas prices (lynchburg) 34yr

what in the hell is goin on with the gas price increase??????????????

Tutto Bene coffee shop (Main Str, lynchburg)

Have you ever been to this coffee shop? It's located below the Bank of the James on main st downtown... I love the ppl that work there, the prices are decent and the coffee is great, not to mention they have fresh made sandwiches and salads and yummy pastries... This is totally a rave because I love this place. Support your local businesses and check it out!!! They also have free wifi!

Re:Not to sound racist

All I have to say is...you are a damn good person NOT to say something to him. That's the type of black guy that makes the good ones look bad. That kind of thing gets on my nerves so bad. It's ridiculous.

Think about it.....

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

Not a smart as you think you are... (REALITY)

I'm not going to be the spellcheck nazi or the grammer police, but if you are going to post here with your superior attitude then maybe you should go back to school or take some night classes at the community college.
Let the grammer popo and spellcheck nazi's review your post: (You're a JERK)

(If you are going to act smart...) (always try to fit in)



Date: 2010-02-27, 8:06PM EST

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Inteligence is not needed on this site or in this area. It has no bearing. It is better to try and fit in. Ive noticed a severe lack of reasoning abilitys,inteligence and normal daily skills on this site. You and a few others are the exception.

Processing fee (USA)

I feel sorry for the person who thought they won a sum of money to only find out it was a scam,this is nothing new for most car dealers,the low lives are easy to spot,they charge a PROCESSING FEE,What is this fee other than a way to screw the consumer more,these fees range from 199.00 to 499.00 and for what?,other than saying to the consumer,I screwed you once and it was easy ,so I will screw you again,Never deal with these low lives there are good dealers who don't charge these fees and they are worthy of your business.
Processing Fees are a rip off,so don't allow the greedy dealers steal your money.

Re:(?) ask the expert? - (wrong question) (If you are going to act smart...)

Try using "SpellCheck".

Unless of course you are on a "witch hunt"

Unlimited supply of retards here.

Here is the JACKOFFS post before he edits it:

(?) ask the expert? - (wrong question)



Date: 2010-02-27, 7:09PM EST

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there is a differense between working for and working with. Witch one of you has the macintosh with rotating IPS. This is interesting

Educated Guess (Ur Yellow Teeth)

You are as stupid as your post, lil' dick Chad.

"Do you have concrete evidance that this is his post tell me how i dont wont to be coned ro bye stolen goods"

You are a fucking retard!!!

Mommy did a shitty job home schooling you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Media vs AEP increases (lynchburg)

Wow the local tv networks are real dumbasses. Both channel 13 and now channel 10 are "reporting" on the AEP bill increases and neither station actually looked at cost per kwh. I mean give me a freaking break, do some math, and report the real rate increase. Don't show some poor old lady with an $800 bill! For all we know she had her heat on 85 degrees with the windows open!!! The entire "report" means diddly without real percentages. Show us the real rate increase based on percentage and then let us be irate.

What ever happened to real reporting???? Truly, I want to know. And btw, yes I've done my own math and rates have increase a lot percentage wise, I just can't remember what mine was off the top of my head....something like 30% in a year based on kwh.

Not to sound racist but...

I was enjoying a nice dinner last night with friends as was the entire restaurant. Then some black guy comes in and starts cussing at his white girlfriend, calling her out for "fucking his brother" etc.... They finally left, both white girls and the black guy but I've got to say, the concealed carry gun in my pocket was ready to go if he had drawn a weapon. What I want to know is why should I not be racist??? I mean an entire restaurant with white/asian people enjoying their evening and this one black guy ruins it for everyone. I guarantee this guy never amounts to anything more than a drain on our tax dollars as he is eventually incarcerated for many many years.

RE:Really very funny (anywhere)

Got the biggest kick out of those posting...glad I wasn't the only one to see those and laugh.

re: Beggars Can't be Chosers... (I have yet to find one)

person that posted on the wanted section that was legit.

i hate ebeggers. like they don't have any friends or family that can help them.

and what's with the sob stories? there are churches that have the means to help them; just ask chad he will attest to that.

if someone posts a want and don't say how much they are willing to pay i post and ask them. they either flag me or delete their post.

if you get a phone number or an email address just google it. i am sure you will find that they are posting all over the area for the same or similiar things.

Re Begging For An Ass Whoopin... (Yes Please!)

PLEASE LET ME HAVE FRONT ROW SEATS AND I WANT PICTURES! HELL, I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW ME BUT THROW IN A FEW GOOD PUNCHES FOR ME AND MY FAMILY BECAUSE HE DESERVES IT! THANK YOU TONS!!!

re to chad (lynchburg )

hey ass hole i havent gotten arrested today i have been at walmart most of the day and i cant help your wife a dumb blond who gives away perfectly good baby iteams you suck at lying you stupid retarded fuck . i havent been arrested for anything and the lpd cant do anything since your dumb blond so called wife bought the iteams to my house you dumb smuck so try a better klye idiot

Now I C Why things DONT Sell (lynchburg)

I along with several people I know have post ed nice things to sell under several catigories and nothing is selling. Is it because some people think that every post with a number is this Chad' person's post. Well THERE NOT!! Some people are just out of work and need to sell somethings to pay there bills, buy groceries or med's untill things come around or have things that other need that they no longer need. Craig's List use to be the place to go to find, sell and trade things and people would respond to your ad's. Now I'm not so sure this site is worth the trouble to post things on, You either get stupid people that want to cause trouble for legitament people, or you get 100 B/S spam emails. Why do people like that always have to ruin a good thing for good people. Flagg with some since and for the people that spam find another site and another way to bug people. STOP PUNISHING HONEST PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO GET RID OF THEIR THINGS!!!!

left out

Darn, I didn't get one of those Whitehouse notes!

It's a damn shane too because I am running out of toilet paper.

Note from the The White House (Washington )

Dear Friend:

Thank you America for your kind words. Your thoughtful words koin a
chorous of millions of Americans who eagar to lead our Nation
towards a brighter tommarow .

Each day , I am inspired by the encouraging messages of hope
and determination I have recived from people across the country
With the magnitude of challenges we face, We will only overcome
them if our imagination is joined to commom purpose.


The future we leave to our children and grandchildren will be
determined b y our willingness to shoulder each other"s burdens.take
great risks,and move forward as one people and one nation,with
your help, we will build on what we have already achived and lay a
new foundation for real and lasting progress.

to all the people on R&R (who gives a shit)

we are all so sick and tried of hearing about LU girl and Amber and Chad if you all are so upset about what Chad, Amber and LU girl said i think u are just angry at your self maybe your wife or husband ran off with a nigger or your sister got caught fucking your daddy or your brother is quer we don't give a fuck so if you want to post something on R&R post something like i got a bad piece of pussy, i wrecked my car today or you just sucked a bad dick today I DON'T GIVE A FUCK

Re: 13-1/2 {correction} (On the road)

"15,000 and 15 miles does make you a biker"


That was supposed to be "$15,000 and 15 miles does NOT make you a biker"

Drag Queens? (Campbell Co.)

Was I dreaming or did I really see what i think may be a drag queen working at Big Lots? It's not everyday you see a guy with long Flamingo pink finger nails and no eyebrows. The only other guy i really know that does that is a drag queen in NY. Does that mean there are drag shows around?! They are soooooo fun!

Re: 13 1/2 (On the road)

Stands for "12 jurors - 1 prosecutor - and 1/2 a chance"

To the one who said "their IQ" you're partially right. I can't stand the poser wannabees that I see everywhere. The ones who buy a bike thinking it'll increase their penis size. You've seen them......DooRags and leather chaps in the summer......every chrome doodad that the Harley Boutique sells......sheesh!

There are some real people around but you have to search for them. "15,000 and 15 miles does make you a biker"

Really very funny (Anywhere)

It’s so good to know there are some great people out there with a fabulous sense of humor. I love to wake up laughing.
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A quick brief question

This is more of a question than a rave or rant, Word through the grapevine is that everyone is supposed to be getting more Stimulus Money this year is that true? Does it get added to you taxes or does it come separately via postal mail?

13 1/2

Oh------

I thought it was their IQ.

re: My choice to pierce and tattoo (angry girl is beyond help)

don't waste your time on her. she doesn't care about herself so why should anyone else?

re: JetBroadband owes you money!! (i used to work there)

they are the worst. i am sure they knew it was wrong and did it anyway.

call their office and ask for alvin ritz he is the operations manager.

if he gets enough calls he will make sure something is done.

their corporate office is in ct as far as i remember.

thankfully, i never had to pay for their lousy service.

when i worked there i got it for free and when i quit i got other internet/cable.

i am not at all surprised that they did this. they shouldn't be able to get away with this.



My choice to pierce and tattoo

My body not yours. Im not Christian nor do i choose to be. My Life not your i understand your Concern but i managed to keep myself alive this far i can manage another 20+ Years.
If i want to decorate my body with tattoos/ Art and piercings, That's my choice not yours.

RE. Craigslist police (Da Burg)

Do you know what the patch "13-1/2" means? See it a lot on biker cuts...

JetBroadband owes you money!!

I just recently found out that JetBroadband has been charging an 89 cent fee (state right of way fee) for years. However, this fee was determined to be illegal. They recently found out as well and have removed it. 89 cents a day for internet usage. They won't bother to tell you that it's removed or that they knew it was illegal to charge for in the first place. And one more thing, they won't offer you the money back that they've taken out of your bill for however long you've been one of their dissatisfied customers. Get a calculator, do the math, 89 cents per day for x amount of years. Can't believe this company is still in business.

re: judgemental Christians

Your body is your temple, you should keep it holy,, and not deface it,, Take care of it, you may regret it when you grow up...

I'm not a bible thumper, just someone who got a little too much sun in their younger days, and paying the price for it now...

Dont be this guy ((()))

Dont pass out around me anymore.
Be careful who you drink and pass out around. From now on I'm bringing a roll of duct tape to parties and no one better pass out!
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Judgmental fake christian

And so what if i have piercings. What is it to you. AT least i am not afraid of what my peers think of me and i don't have to pretend to be some one i am not. That's the problem with your type too quick to judge and you have no firm evidence to point out your claim. Your scared to express yourself b/c your crowd you hang out with will laugh at you. I know i've been there. Don't give a fuck then don't give a fuck now! Be yourself and stop pretending. You'll realize that it's a lot easier then to be FAKE all the time. I know some people who go to LU and frankly that's not the type i hang out with always judging people by their looks, cars, and income while they funnel their parents hard earned money. Dude that's your parent why would you do that? But i guess in your case you use people up and dispose of them just like that leader of yours.Karma is a bitch and the people that you make fun of because either they have piercings and don't make enough money that you funnel out of your parents or they dress different and not like you((heaven forbid anyone like you)) It'll happen to you one day. And speaking of bible thumpers. So i heard from associated friends who are christian, Doesn't the bible quote, "Judge not one another" I'm not a christian so i have nothing to worry about but like i said SO HYPOCRITICAL. I'm done with this threaded convo. You can argue with yourself I'm done. Gotta work in the A.M Peace CL

AGAIN WOW LMFAO

Never said "I" or any one i know was going to shank you. Nope I don't even work near there. Not poor i don;t go there b/c i don't wont to be around hypocritical bible thumpers all day. Besides, Your leader is dead now he's probably rotting his fat ass off by now, ROFLMAO serves him right he thought we was the leader of this city. He was only a crooked politician. But hey whatever i don't go there, nor do i want to. What does being poor have anything to do with any of the posts. You should really look into getting meds for that ADD problem of yours.All i said was is that I WORKED HARD FOR EVERYTHING I OWN there i typed it in caps so that you could read it better. or press cntrl while using the middle mouse scroll. Then you wouldn't look like an idiot posting something irrelevant to any of the posts.
wow i guess those classes aren't doing you any good.

wow lmfao

We'll see who will be laughing in the end like always i out stood you idiots before i can do it again and no i didn't post those posts except for the ones that have my signature on them ''LU Girl"God you must be smoking that crack again. It's not worth arguing about because you are immature and ignorant as hell. Unlike you I'm not a momma's boy! I guess that's why you can't even go see a an "R" rated movie In lynchburg some principle you have a that ::snickers:: school !!!!! you were better off going to Lynchburg college at least there you got to keep your man card, and dignity. But whatever you say. Wow kid you amuse me.

  • PS why would i pretend to be someone else(LMFAO). I'm known for some fucked up posts it's not like anyone can top off those sadistic CL R & R posts that i have posted previously. I take pride in being fucked up in the head and letting my imagination run wild in a bloody open field of dismembered bodies, rotten carcasses, and maggots crawling out of eye sockets! MMMMmmmmmm what a turn on!!!!


I'd like to see you get morbidly creative. Besides I'm the only twisted individual on Lynchburg's R&R i take pride in that so get lost kid (( In the never ending pool of crimson tides we wait for the sound of a dark figure that lurks behind every man, woman, and child waiting to devour their soul.))

On a positve note......

On the flip side does anyone know when this snow will go away and we can dig out the spring stuff outta our garages?

From the LU girl

HAHAHAHAHA Finally some one sees why i hate most of the LU students. They rely on Mommy & Daddy to to everything right down to wiping their asses.
The fact of the matter is yes their in college, excited want to go shopping, blah, blah, blah. Now i can understand some hard working Students that want to make a carreer for themselves and the decide to treat themselves for all their hard work. Yes i understand but majority of them go on a Money SPLURGE that mommy and daddy has to deal with the credit card company for hours trying to fix their 2k max out overdraft fee.
I know i am 20 years old but i feel i have learned a lot for my age put the needs first and wants later. Do you buy that new top at forever 21 or pay for room and board or food gas oil change etc. ?? I think a lot of people who are in college that depend on their parents for everything take things for granted. Everyone's parents aren't going to live forever(( Physically)). And at some point they have gotta pop the tit outta the mouth and do for THEMSELVES. I mean it's not rocket science. Parents prepare the children for life and tough obstacles and at some point flying off to college and then getting wired money every week for 1k or 2k just to blow it all on dumb crap, Isn't being adult like and independent. I-M-O

Timberlake Wilco (Lynchburg)

Well since you flag peoples post we as the public will continue to post, we have alot of time to do such, but most of all since you don't care to fix the problems that gets brought to your attention than we will all band together to contact the PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY (STEVE WILLIAMS) or (RON PADGETT).. Maybe just maybe then these important people will wonder why things can not be handled on a store level instead of being brought to their attention, im sure he would love to know that his company on a store level allows sexual harassment, covering up of certain employees backgrounds, etc. well keep flagging and we will keep posting and emailing and contacting the right people, we are customers too and will not stand for that kind of behavior

Gun Lawyers... (Bizzaro-world)

Anyone who purports that any specific scenario will have the same outcome in court is a fool. This supports the saying, "A person who represents themself in court has a fool for a client". While the defined scenarios may have actually been taken from actual cases here in Virginia, there are probably extenuating circumstances. I am not going to guess what they were.

I know of shooting deaths that were justified because one man attacked another with a magazine. How you ask? The attacker was a crazed Thai Boxer proficient in Thai Stick fighting and knew how to tightly wrap paper products into lethal weapons. After repeated demands by the shooter for the attacker to drop the weapons, the attacker continued to proceed, got shot and died. The cop was exonerated

On top of cops getting exonterated, private citizens have more lattitude and rights to pull the trigger than cops. That is the truth. If you are in fear for your life or the life of another person you can use deadly physical force to stop the attack. The presence of a gun is NOT necessarily the defining factor as to whether or not we can shoot an attacker. An intruder may be knifing, choking or beating your loved one with a baseball bat and you think you are expected to wait until the attacker gets a gun before you can shoot the attacker? Bull! You can get just as dead by a knife or a baseball bat as you can by a gun.

The "scenario poster" was not completely correct. Do not take legal advice from a CL poster. Contact an attorney and review the Virginia State Penal Code.

Re: More justified shooting scenarios (The full Nelson)

Interesting circumstances and comments. My security system will go off and call for help at the sound of breaking glass also alerting me to act swiftly and grab a weapon. My grandmother’s sister went to prison where she died after shooting and killing her ex husband while she was being kidnapped, in the state of Virginia. My uncle was axed to death by his son who served less than 10 years in prison, in the state of Virginia. Pretty gruesome stuff obviously. I for one know first hand how very unfair and stupid the laws are in this great commonwealth. The jinx of it is who cares what happens in court if you are dead? And if I die in the process my family and friends will know I did the best I could and doing what I thought was the right thing. What else can you do? Got anything positive to say? Plan B would be nice.

LU Students (Campbell Co.)

Nope not LU girl here, sorry. Actually I do have a job, I just happened to be on break when I wrote the earlier post (RE LU Students). I just happen to be a stickler about customer service, and I think most the college students here (especially MOST of the LU students I encounter) just don't actually know the value of hard work. I have seen two LU students where I work get mad and stomp there feet because they didn't get the days off they requested (they wanted two weeks off), and in the line of business they were working in it's just not possible; our company's schedule is based on a 24/7 work week, our service doesn't end on Sat or Sun. So they got mad and quit, no two week notice, no way were they going to compromise Not to mention the fact that I had heard them talk about police work, HA guess what when you are a rookie, you are going to get the crappiest hours, crappiest patrol or duty station they can give you, and two weeks off (HAHAHAHA!); like my dad used to tell me "wish in one hand; shit in the other; see what happens first" All I am trying to say is that mommy and daddy are not going to always be there to give you a handout whenever you wasted your last $30 on a manicure or the latest collection at Victoria Secret, when you grow up and become an adult, HOPEFULLY you will realize that. And this is not directed to all LU students, because I have met some really good ones, but unfortunately the vast majority aren't THAT fabulous. I am just hopin gthat wherever the military deems fit to send us next is NOT a college town, or maybe they'll send us back to Savannah, at least there I know the starving SCAD student will actually have a pleasant attitude.

Re: LU Cry Babies (Campbell Co.)

Thank goodness, someone else shares my view on this. However it unfortunately doesn't just pertain to voting, it's everything. I have never seen a college town with such HORRID service, all these LU kids walk around with a HUGE entitlement issue. "Well, I don't have to work so hard for this money, becuase I know mommy and daddy are going to send me a big fat check for me to waste next week." If any of you kids ever get a REAL job you are so in a for a RUDE awakening. I think the best college town service I have ever had was in Savannah GA, those kids no how to work for their tips (and paychecks), and guess what they get GOOD tips(and paychecks) , and probably bring in more money than mommy and daddy send to you. So do us all a favor, let other people that NEED the jobs have your jobs and quit wasting our time, or pull momma titty out your mouth and PRETEND you really need the money!

guns and such (right here)

yes i am aware that private sales take place at gun shows. i have been to many. but have you noticed all the signs posted at the salem and roanoke shows that say no private selling on this property? the vendors are trying to make that go away. they pay for those tables and dont want people selling there that havent paid for a space. try selling your gun outside ace hardware and see what they tell you lol.

LU Cry Babies (Lynchburg)

Man, you people come off like a bunch of brainwashed zombies. What ever Jerry Jr. says ya'll fall right in goose step with him. Here's a thought. How bout you all do like every other citezen of this country does on election day. Get off your spoiled, lazy asses and work your voteing time around everything else that your day has to offer. Theres no one giving me the day off to vote. There's no one bussing me to the polls. I'm not sitting here crying because in might be a bit out of my way to vote. You all need to grow up and accept the fact that your not gonna always have things laid right out in front of you to make your life easy. If you don't like the way things are done here in Lynchburg, you are surely welcome to go back to whereever you came from. I'm sure life is just perfect there for you!

More justified shooting scenarios (State of VA)

I cannot stress this point enough...the use of deadly force in a home invasion shooting is justified in a very small number of cases (in this state at least). The person talking about shooting anyone threatening that's not on the deed or lease needs to seriously reevaluate their ideas on that. Yes, I completely understand that the guy in your house dressed in all black with the mask on his face is most likely not there for a cup of tea, but that STILL does not make it justified to shoot them. It's obvious to most of us that the person is in there to either rob you or harm you, but the law is not in your favor on this. Here's a few more scenarios:

a) Your sitting on your couch watching tv and someone breaks your window. You get scared and run into your bedroom and get your gun. When you come back, there's a man in your living room dressed in all black. He looks at you, you look at him, and he walks over to your tv and starts disconnecting your DVD player from it. You yell at him to leave, he just keeps on going. He takes the dvd player, walks over to the door, opens it and leaves.

At any point in that scenario, you CANNOT SHOOT HIM. It sounds stupid as hell, but that's just how it is. He had no weapon, he made no threatening moves toward you, he never even walked in your general direction. A DVD player is not grounds to shoot someone, even if they take 5 minutes taking it out the door. The police will tell you that you had plenty of time to call 911, and get yourself to a safe distance.

b) Your sitting on your couch watching tv and someone breaks your window. You get scared and run into your bedroom and get your gun. When you come back, there's a man in your living room dressed in all black. He looks at you, you look at him, and he says he has a gun and wants all your money. You don't actually see a weapon as his hands are in his pockets. You yell at him to leave, he says it again and starts walking toward you. You shoot him in the chest and he goes down. Call police. Police show up and discover he had no weapon. The burglar survives and denies ever saying he had a gun. Court time...burglar is guilty of criminal trespass, your guilty of attempted manslaughter. Sounds far-fetched, but do a little reading on court cases, and it's not as crazy as it sounds.

c) Your sitting on your couch watching tv and someone breaks your window. You get scared and run into your bedroom and get your gun. When you come back, there's a man in your living room dressed in all black. He looks at you, you look at him, and he says he has a gun and wants all your money. You SEE has has a gun clearly in his hand. You yell at him to leave, he says it again and starts walking toward you. You shoot him in the chest and he goes down. Call police. Police show up and discover he had a weapon on his person....totally different outcome. You have a much greater chance of walking away from that scenario than the other two. He had a weapon and he made a move. You thought it was him or you, so you shot first.

If anyone is seriously considering a firearm for protection, I suggest they take a concealed weapons class. Even if you don't apply for the permit, the class will have some hands-on shooting at the range, a lawyer present to go over the laws, and an instructor to go over things with you. The problem with most people is that they go out and buy a weapon for their protection, but there aren't many places around here to go and shoot aside from joining a club. You need to be proficient in shooting, handling, and cleaning your gun so if that time ever comes to use it in a self-defense situation, it will be second nature to operate it.

Also, I have always heard that if you are ever involved in a shooting that you call 911 and ask for an ambulance NOT the police. After you tell the dispatcher you've shot someone, they will always send the police with them anyway. If you ever go to court for the shooting, it will look 10x better for you if the 911 tape has you asking for an ambulance for the shot burglar. This will help you debunk the idea that you were out to murder the bad guy.

Podiatrist recommedations? (Lynchburg)

Anyone here know of a good podiatrist in Lynchburg? Anyone know of someone to avoid? Thanks.

Re: guns and such (anywhere)

Yes you can go to a gun show and set up a table and sell guns without paperwork. private citizens can do this with no paper work it is a private sale. dealers also go to gun shows and set up tables and sell guns under their store or dealership BUT if you buy from them or if they sell to anyone then the paper work must be completed. ANYONE can buy a table at a gun show and anyone can sell at a gun show. You don't even need a table to buy or sell. At the gun show this weekend at the James River Conference Center I saw individuals with signs on their backs and guns in their hands walking through the crowds with a gun for sale. This happens all the time and it happens at all shows. If you don't believe it then call them up or go into a gun shop and ask. If you have not been to a gun show then you should check one out. Its a very different kind of sale and its not bad at all. Good American Citizens practicing their rights.

From Nelson to Campbell County (Single Mom)

I respect your input detailing the burglary and the unfortunate response you got from the local police. It doesn’t give me much of a warm fuzzy feeling. While my house was being built I had “No Trespassing” signs up which of course doesn’t mean anything other than I couldn’t be sued if someone should get hurt on the premises. Invited or not. The alarm system lowered the insurance by almost 50%, which was a blessing as it afforded me the funds to buy appliances I didn’t have to worry about being stolen. It’s an unjust world as we toil in our efforts for survival. A few of my new neighbors carry their weapons with them when they go outside to play in the dirt and have been adamant that I should do so also. I haven’t gotten to that stage yet but I do carry a very sharp knife and about once or twice a month I do target practice in back acre of the house. It’s a good thing to let the neighborhood know you are armed and practiced. The folks at the local crack house have not been back since I’ve moved in. As for the comment about getting a larger weapon, that’s all nice but I chose what I did because it fit good in my hands, lightweight, easy to use, rapid fire and for me, precision. Because I travel alone a lot my next move will be for a concealed weapons permit. I won’t volunteer to be a victim and neither should you. Be safe.

guns-n-such

I was the one who posted that i have a registered shot gun that i was meaning is they have the gun paperwork that was filled out upon the purchase 10 years ago(( or i think they still do)). I know the gun is old but it was handed down to me from a loved one and i keep it with me at all times in my home. I know when i am being threatened if their name is NOT on the lease or deed to the home and they are not residing there for more then 3 days, then yes i will feel threatened and what is the robber gonna say, "OY! can i have a cup of tea!?" c'mon you and me both know what his/her intentions were for breaking and entering in the 1st place. That's why i sleep with my door locked(( all doors leading outside of coarse)) and bed room so that way it's physical proof that he/she wanted in. hence the reason the door was locked. I'm sure crooked people find loop holes all the time so I'm sure if you research hard enough someone can find one. So what are we supposed to do let the intruder kill us without taking a stand to save our and our families lives? Some law there.! PFFTTT! The law is as crooked as a politician IMO.

guns and such (right here)

just to clear up a few things here. you can not just go to a gun show and set up a table. the people with tables are vendors and have all the state and federal forms you have to fill out just like walmart. you can buy and sell out in the parking lot as private sellers but they are cutting that out as much as possible. when you fill out these forms the gun becomes registered to you. the state police dont keep each weapons serial number on file. this is kept up with buy the seller of the firearm. when a gun is used in a crime the bullet goes out for ballistics tests then matched with the gun it came from. (thats what that empty shell casing is for when you buy a new pistol) the authorites contact the seller who finds that little form you filled out then says this is who bought that weapon then the cops knock on your door. at least thats how i believe it goes thanks for reading

the way it should be

this is the type of information i like to see here--not the bull that is normaly on here--like chad-amber-and all the cussing that goes on (like when your on here and turn around and find out your young daughter is looking over your shoulder.

re: Appreciated the possible scenario (Nelson County) (Campbell County)

I am also a single mom. My house was robbed last year. The Campbell County Sheriff's dept did absolutley nothing to try and find the burglar. That might cut into their "let's do nothing and get paid good for it time". The asshole that robbed me came back and then I bought a gun. I told the good for nothing cops that I would put a cap in the ass of the burglar if he came back. They told me that not only did he have to be in my house but he also had to be a threat to me or the shooting wouldn't be justified. And I could go to jail. WTF! So now I have an alarm system, a big dog, a stun gun and a few "other things" . If/when this asshole decides to come back to my house he will be in for a little more than he bargained for. I won't shoot him but I guarantee he won't come back again.

purchasing guns (anywhere)

You have to do the paperwork if you buy the gun from a store or a dealer. If its a private sale - person to person - no paper work is needed. Example - Gun Shows. You can go to one and set up a table and buy and sell all day. No paper work at all, buy as many as you want. Go to WalMart or Gander Mtn. and its paper work out the wazoo.

Appreciated the possible scenario (Nelson County)

Aside from you all cursing each other out I for one appreciated the possible scenario and legal ramifications that could occur should I shoot an intruder. One of the first things I bought after moving here was to have an alarm system installed. Then I bought a gun. Nothing fancy, a small semi 22. This however puts a hole in my theory that you can’t shoot unless the intruder is inside the house. Being a hard working single mom I could pull off the same legal strategy with witnesses proclaiming my integrity as a good, honest, tax paying individual who volunteers to help others at the drop of a hat. Those are the kind of stories I would like to hear. I have no intentions on ever being the victim.

re:Re: ghetto gang bangers

First of all, I don't know what a 'fully registered' shotgun looks like, since Virginia does not have firearm registration. Any Joe Sixpack with a clean criminal record and $300 can go to Walmart, buy a shotgun, and take it home same day, no registration required. Next, while i commend people for exercising their 2nd Amendment right of owning a firearm, for protection or otherwise, the comment referring to 'shoot now, asking questions later' will almost certainly land YOU in prison in VA. There is no Castle Doctrine in Virginia like there is in other states (such as Florida) where you can shoot any intruder in your home for just about any reason you want. In Virginia, they have to show intent to harm, either by expressing it or by brandishing a weapon in a threatening manner, and you have to have NO OTHER OPTION but to shoot to save a life.

That means, that if a guy kicks your door in with a hockey mask on, and he's standing by the door with NO WEAPON VISIBLE, and he doesn't say or do anything to make you fear your life, you CANNOT shoot him in Virginia. Now granted, just because you do feel threatened, (and anyone kicking my door in would seem threatening to me too) that STILL doesn't guarantee that you can shoot the guy and get away with it. If the police arrive and find out the guy doesn't have a gun or knife on him, its going to be REALLY hard to convince a jury that you were threatened at all. The criminal's attorney is going to try and paint you as a gun-toting murderous lunatic. The criminal's family is going to show pictures of him in little-league as a child and talk about how he was 'turning his life around'. They're going to tug the heart-strings of everyone in the courtroom and make you the bad guy. I would say well over half the population of the US are petrified of guns and people who own them outside of the Police and Military. They have seen years of media coverage of "assault" weapons and "gun-show loopholes" that they are conditioned to think anyone with a gun has no right to have one aside from being a psychopath. Even if you make it through criminal court and are not charged, you most certainly will be sued by the criminal's family in civil court and will lose 3/4 of what you own in a court battle. There are plenty of horror stories out there online that you can read to get the real picture. It's not cut and dry like it should be in these cases.

The laws in this country are designed to protect the criminal and not than the victim. I would recommend reading through the Virginia state laws and leaning toward a policy of "ask questions now, shoot later" if you enjoy looking out a window without bars over it.

Re: ghetto gang bangers

i own a shotty(( fully registered)) and its loaded 24/7 and not in a gun cabinet but, beside my bed. I don't worry about no one harming me. If they do I'll shoot then ask questions later. Females these days are at higher risk due to the ill mannered, un educated black minority especially young white women such as my self are victims to these people. Trust none betrayed by none. I'm not racist but how many times do you turn on the TV and see more white rapist and murderers, Not racist just well aware of reality.

RE:RE: dirty gang bangers (Lynchburg)

If you're so worried about gang bangers in your neighborhood why don't you have a gun?
Buy a gun - Learn how to use it properly - Sleep better at night.

My .45 on the night stand insures I sleep well...

How stupid can a person be??? (Chads Ad)

Let's do the math.
$6.89 per sheet new at Lowes = $20.67
Can someone really be as stupid as him???
Chads Ad:


3 sheets of 1/2 in sheet rock left over - $25 (lynchburg )



Date: 2010-02-19, 5:57PM EST
Reply to: sale-ppxdh-1608762756@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]






we just remodoled our bath and kitchen and have about 3 whole sheets of half inch sheet rock left over and dont want to throw it out so we are selling all 3 for 25.00 we purchased it at lowes for around 6.89 a sheet

call 434-509-2942

RE:RE: dirty gang bangers lmao

First off, Given this lovely ::HAHA:: common wealth state we are residing in there is no safe neighbor hood. And as far as you saying you don't want them in your neighbor hood
honestly there is nothing you can do about it except complain and apparently it hasn't gotten you anywhere, so suck it just like everyone else who shares your same thought and opinions on that subject they have a right to reside where they want just like you. But if they threaten or attempt to harm you then you can taken further action. Until then we all have to suck it up an deal with it. If you live downtown Lynchburg lol i feel sorry for you but if you live in the county and other non minority areas then you shouldn't have too much worry about hang in there.

RE: Yo Chad (GoshYouBoreMe)

Thank-you! I so agree!

re:dirty gang trash

I don't know how you formed your opinion of people from the south east, but you plainly have your head up your ass.

I came here from Atlanta and I can assure you that the folks from there are among the most genteel of those I have met from other locations.

I have encountered more bottom feeders from other places than I have from any of the states you mentioned.

Some of the worst locations I can think of include Southern California, New York city, Chicago, Memphis, and temporary residents of Washington DC.

Lumping citizens from the south east together as degenerate slugs merely exposes you as one of the more brazen bigots of all time.

Get a life, get an education, get screwed.

Re:Free Cell Phone - (Certain States)

I will push this one as far as I humanly can sirs and maams, you have my word. Through the grace of good thinking I have coined the term CORPORATE TERRORISM and I and lots of other hard working Americans are being victimized by it. If any one with legal skills and spare time would like to help me define this in a leisurely manner I would appreciate your input. Sprint has recently added a $5 dollar per month charge for those customers who do not allow direct bill pay from their banking accounts. Is that to fund this? How can they demand how to be paid under penalty? To any cellular service reps who read this know that I am an easy sell if you can assure me the company you work for does not waste it's money earned from good paying customers to further this program, all fed surcharges aside. Just respond with your assurance and I am sold. As to the person who posted that the people on this posting forum were not capable of sticking together on any 1 subject I hope this has served to prove them wrong. Thank you all concerned. More to be posted as my and Sprints Corporate business hours allow us to communicate. - Salute

Free Cell Phone (Certain States)

Please keep us posted, I believe this is from State and Federal money. They phone companies found a loophole (imagine that) in a law passed to get phone service to rural America years ago. I don't think all states have the program. Basically if you qualify for any social service (socialistic) then you qualify for the free phone (with the option to buy a text plan and additional minutes- how nice). There is no check to see if you ever do not qualify, kind of like welfare - it is a lifestyle. I too am sick and tired of hearing people abusing the system or thinking it is ok because they are owed something. The only thing you are owed is what you earned.

If there is a way to not have to pay for this that would be great, I guess we could all contact our local "representatives" and keep calling/ emailng and complaing:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread55535.html

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/f/free-cell-phones.htm

To find and contact your congressman

http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

Bottom line, tell your friends and coworkers to complain. The voice of the people with their hands out is much stronger that those of us paying into the system. They have a lot more to lose, we work to hard to get ahead. If we don't make some noise, nothing will happen.

If you know someone on social service (welfare, foodstamps, unemployment) and they are abusing it via fraud or using drugs - turn them in.

Sprints response to the free cell phones

Well, after being redirected and hung up on by Sprint service employees I finally spoke to a supervisor named Dianna. Dianna responded to my request for a disclosure of how much money was being funneled into this program from paying customers by telling me it was none of my business if I was not a shareholder in Sprint. She informed me it was profit and they could do anything they want with their money. I informed her I had not payed my bill yet and it was still my money and that I was aware that Sprint was one of the top ten American companies losing customers at a rate the equivalent of bleeding to death, and that I did not mind being the next red blood cell at the opening of the artery. She then transferred me to account info which was once again was a hang up in my face. After that I called Sprint and reduced my unlimited plan to the minimum plan with unlimited text and noted to my account the reason why and if it were not a Sunday I would all ready be another company's customer. I will persue this as I feel it is my duty. If any one could provide me with info to a company that does not provide this service out of pocket I would be grateful. I am comfortable with this being provided by the fed surcharges on my bill, but not at all comfortable with doing business with a company that says it is none of my business how much my money is being used to help them vie for government money for this program. Virgin mailed me the application for the program. Was tht government money? I seriously doubt it. I can't wait to speak to Sprint corporate. BTW to avoid the negatives I've been leaving my tag off, but not this time. - Salute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re:Person complaining about free phones

No I was not aware they were one in the same. TY. However last night I contacted Sprint which informed of their participation in the Lifeline program. I asked them specifically how much of a percentage of my bill is directed towards funding this and only got transferred to the Lifeline program to speak to someone there. Couldn't speak to someone there however I left my name and number as an eligible and interested person to receive one of these phones. Who knows where that will go but the plan is to demand that portion of my bill and payment back from them for as long as I've been a customer. After that the ACLU. And after that we'll see. More as it comes. A big thank you to those who have responded to this with fiscal responsibility.

ChemTrails (They're Back!)

After a few days of clear blue skies, the lovely chemtrails are back.

I will not answer questions sent directly to my email address. I don't know if you're real or just an email harvester.

Have a question? Post it here and it will be answered here.

Person complaining about free phones

Dunno if you realize it or not but Virgin Mobile is a Sprint company, so technically you are with a company that provides free phones....just saying. And no I don't have a free phone, I pay for my service.

reply from LU Girl

Yeah i do so what's your point? and it's MRS. to you

to all

no i did not blow them up.......yet?! muhahahahaha! JK well it's not like there's a pic of each poster beside the posting so how was i to know.
I like southern comfort a bit sweet I prefer my gut busting Jack. And as for weed, I don't smoke a whole lot given hard times i conserve weed.
I don't smoke, smoke, smoke, i smoke, trip, and chill. Maybe the munchies here and there. I drive and smoke a joint sometimes very rarely but sometimes.
and as for the poster asking about a train or bus to get to work the bus line is GLTC the number to the office for all info 434-847-7771 and i don't know about
you people but i am sick of this Chad ordeal. It's so juvenile 2 ex-lovers feuding over who stole what and who fucked who. If i want to listen to that crap i would
just go to WVA. On the lighter subject how was everyone Saturday?

Sign,
LU Girl

Getting to work (Nelson County)

This is probably not the place to ask but does anyone here hop the train or jump on a commuter bus to get to work?

Re:Keg?

I don't think so. I don't fuck men unless they are white. Not being racist. just i don't like black dick. Now Italian. mmmm mmmm mmmm mmmm mmmm! I guess that's why i married my now husband.
And the Keg was a figure of speech. I don't like beer i don't like taking side roads to getting drunk i like my shots just like my men strong, hard, and straight to the fuckin point.
Now if we have Jack, Jim and Weed. I Can assure you it'll be a fun night. But I party in the comforts of my own home. so i'll take a rain check.

Re: free phone

I am really enjoy the Gov't phone you lovely people are providing me. Funny thing is i don't have to pay a penny for it LMFAO. And you can say whatever you want. Because you can't do anything but complain about it LMAO. wow this free phone is nice. And the Gov't isn't gonna belly up. Haha they will continue to hand out grants and whatever else for free while you people pay. AHHHH this is lovely. BTW THANKS FOR MY PENNY FREE PHONE. Complain all you want your just feeding me amusement while i am laughing at your dumbass. So keep paying those high fee phone companies while i enjoy my lovely FREE PHONE!!!!!

re: re: Re: free phone (verizon) (i agree)

i will go with boost if i have to so the lazy shits like chad, lu girl, etc don't benefit from my $$

Re: free phone

I'll complain about it. A lot. I've made Virgin mobile customers aware they are being skimmed. I'll call you a leech on society. An over priveledged loser. In another country you would be lower caste. Here you're misfortuned. When the big guv in Washington finally does belly up you'll be there with a useless piece of plastic and no skills. I'll post other companies that skim the rich for an obvious government grant to provide you priveldges only meant for those with an income that can support it. They'll mail me the info. I wont even have to look. I myself am a Sprint customer. I think I'll actually put forth the effort to see if they offer the same program. If they do I'll switch to a company that doesn't. Sounds fair to me anyway. It is my business if the money I work hard to turnover ends up on your plate. That's not part of my dream. If it's part of the new "American Dream" I will find a way to not participate. I know what you will do. Nothing.

Re:freezer

You supply the freezer i supply the bong and weed and Jack and Jim. . Where do you live so we can party? i've been wanting to try a keg stand!
But anyways, I will write something more creative later muchies are on the way.

RE: hitting the bong too often

I don't see how me smoking weed is any of your concern. And further more, maybe if you spent as much time focusing on yourself then on me maybe you wouldn't be blowing up the CL R&R with your bullshit. Maybe you should spend more time with your kids or family seeing how your sooooooo obsessed with me. You amuse me is a sadistic way. Makes me want to tie you up and leave you in a freezer to starve and freeze to death. mmmm YUMMY

Re: free phone

Yep sure do and what are you gonna do about it?!

Hoss (Lynchburg, Va)

I resemble that remark :P - Salute

To all

well you wanted entertainment, well you got it. Money has nothing to do with owning a bowl or a bong you can simply make both with the right
equipment and supplies. Sheesh and i never mentioned anything about 'teeth' wtf lmao are you people drinking tonight? And owning a gun does not make you a
hick so who ever made that statement. okay sure whatever you say, hoss! And so fucking what if people get cell phones thru the Gov't that's their business not yours.
If you minded your own business once in a while maybe you wouldn't look like a moron for paying monthly for a laptop. Either rent-to-own or that gimmick magic jack crap. either one.
Eventually we will all be living off of the Gov't look who is our president. So quit your bitching and enjoy life and be thankful for what you do have it could be worse.

It is called WORK RELEASE (Virginia)

To the idiot that stated they were "sure" that inmates were not working in area businesses... SHUT UP YOU FUCKTARD!

You should not comment on concepts about which you know NOTHING. The fact of the matter is that inmates held locally ARE able to secure employment at local businesses. They are brought to the work site, picked up and returned to jail EVERY day and the inmates PAY for this our of the wage they are paid.

Ignorant, foolish assholes should keep that cocksucker they call their mouth SHUT until they know what the FUCK they are talking about.

Cell phones (All over USA)

should not be free for the underpriveledged. A cell phone is a priveledge, not a right like air and sunlight. If you're a Virgin Mobile customer ask them how much extra they are charging you to provide 200 minutes with no fees to people who are low income and all ready on a government program. I have no idea what the US government has all ready sunk into this losing proposition as well as misapropriating the rest of our taxes but if the private sector is backing it up with their money we can at least affect it by not being a Virgin Mobile paying customer. If you have a free cell phone YOU ARE A LEECH!!!

re:guns

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
Adolph Hitler
Chancellor, Germany, 1933

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

Inmates on Work Release (All over the State)

If you'll check here:

http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/offenders/institutions/programs/work-release.shtm

I believe you'll find all the information you need. Pay close attention to the 2001 Year End Report section here:

http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/about/facts/default.shtm#beds

under "Jail Contract Bed Program Report".

Granted, it's a report from 2001, but it indicaties that the VA Dept. of Corrections receives several million dollars to put inmates to work through the program. This is to address jail overcrowding. According to the report, the jails receive $28 per diem per prisoner that participates in the program. In 2001, there were 56 prisoners in the BRRJ participating. That equates to $1568 for BRRJ A DAY in funding. It also indicates that part of the prisoner's wages can be collected to defray the cost of housing, child support, fines, restitution, and travel expenses for work. There is a list at the bottom that lists the local businesses that participate in the program.

The list does not include McDonalds for the BRRJ Lynchburg, but it does have McDonalds listed for Fairfax County and another county. In fact, there are a large number of busineses, not just restaurants, that use the program. Since this is a 10 year old report, I'm sure the list of applicable businesses has expanded, as well as the per diem received by the jails.

Judging from this, I'd say it is more than reasonable for the jail to transport inmates to and from a jobsite using a state-use vehicle. The van I have seen myself would hold at least 9 inmates, possibly more. If that's the case, using the OLD 2001 data, the jail would be getting about $250 for that single van load of inmates, per day. They will most likely also use a portion of whatever wages they earn to pay for the gasoline, maintenance, and wages of the driver. They transport prisoners all the time to use picking trash and doing road work in the bright orange van. This would be no different.

no bowl?

Nope playing some warcraft for a while and then its nighty night! Maybe tomorrow though. We'll see.

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